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PostSubject: System 36 Stableford   Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:40 am

Hi guys, this is going to be a long but informative post. So I hope you guys have the patience to finish reading it.
Our annual tournament is just around the corner and the format of play is System 36 Stableford.
Hence, I think it will be good if we all understand what it is and how to score well for this format.

First of all, there is a need to understand that System 36 and Stableford are 2 different things although they are commonly use together.
System 36 is a way to compute one’s handicap while stableford is a scoring format (just like strokeplay)

System 36 is a method of handicapping a tournament when many competitors simply don't carry a true handicap issued by a recognized authority (ha ha ha).
This particular handicapping method is popular in the Asia Pacific region (seems like angmos have more integrity) and finds use in corporate outings and benefit tournaments.
System 36 generates a temporary handicap for use just during that event.

Here is how it works: For each player, assign "handicap reduction points" for each hole as follows:
- Par or better = 2 points
- Bogey = 1 point
- Double Bogey or worse = 0 point

Add up the points total after a round and subtract it from 36.
The result is that player's number of handicap strokes for the round.

Note: although technically you can have a max hcp of 36 under system 36.
But as far as I’m aware most clubs in Singapore apply a max hcp of 24 for guys and 36 for ladies.
This one we have to wait for TD aka King Cobra to seek clarification from WGCC.

Ok after explaining System 36, let’s move on to Stableford.
Stableford is a scoring system used in the sport of golf.
Rather than counting the total number of strokes taken, as in stroke play, it involves scoring points (the higher the better) based on the number of strokes taken at each hole.

The USGA covers Stableford competitions in the Rules of Golf – Rule 32: Bogey, Par and Stableford Competitions.
In a Stableford scoring system, you award points in relationship to “fixed score” on a hole.
Assuming “fixed score” is par (which they always are), points are awarded in Stableford scoring system as follows:
- Double Bogey or worse - 0 points
- Bogey - 1 point
- Par - 2 points
- Birdie - 3 points
- Eagle - 4 points
- Albatross - 5 points

The number of points awarded on each hole is determined based on comparison of the number of strokes taken to par.
This par is then adjusted in relation to the players handicap (your system 36 handicap generated earlier) to derive at the net par.
Does this sound confusing? Ok ok let me use my powderful England to try and explain further.

Stableford scoring system awards you points in relation to a fixed score.
This fixed score is normally a par.
However your par and my par are different......ha ha ha
This is because we have different handicap.
To a 9 handicapper, the par score for a index 11 par 4 hole is 4.
However to a 16 handicapper, the par score for the same hole is 5 and not 4.

Example: Swing2sky with a system 36 handicap of 22
If S2S plays off a 22 handicap, then he will receive 22 strokes during the course of the round.
These 22 strokes are
- 1 stroke on each of the 18 holes
- Additional 1 stroke on those index 1 to 4 holes
In this case, a par 4 hole which is rated index 3 in difficulty will ensure the golfer receives 2 strokes on the hole thus making the hole a Par 6.
So if this golfer scores a 5 on the hole, this equates to a net birdie thus scoring the person 3 points.

Example: Moi with a system 36 handicap of 14
If Moi plays off a 14 handicap, then he will receive 14 strokes during the course of the round.
These 14 strokes are:
- 1 on each of the 14 holes with index 1 to 14
No strokes will be given for holes with index 15 to 18.
In this case a par 4 hole which is rated number 11 in difficulty will ensure the golfer receives 1 stroke thus making the hole effectively a par 5.
So if this golfer then scores a 5 on the hole this equates to a net par thus scoring the person 2 points.


Stableford can have the added benefit of speeding up the pace of play, as once it is no longer possible to score a point, a player does not have to complete the hole but can simply pick up his/her ball and proceed to the next hole. This is why TD always say “double par & above can pick up ball and go liao”.......hee hee

If you can understand what I say above, it is enough already.
Bottom line: dun think so much and calculate so much like S2S (rem the Malacca game???), just play your best like Golfman
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:26 am

Steady la bro Markie for the explanation... I caught the ball for System 36, but lost then remaining. Haha..

Golf is already such a tough game. Hence for me, I will just enjoy the good company and my beer cheers
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:08 pm

So... how do you explain for folks that score 40-50+ points in a tournament under sys36?
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:38 pm

40 is possible
50 is quite impossible
To score 50 means you need to shoot 14 under meaning 14 birdies
I have never seen any.
Have you?
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:13 am

Bro markie then wat is system 36 stableford?
Combination of both? Means hcp is base on tt day game (System 36)
then determine the stableford score?
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:55 am

Like what Markie said, no point calculating how to score, golf is already very difficult, just play to your best playing ability on that day and let lady luck determine your winning fate... cheers
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:43 pm

So the best way to score most stablepoint is to score high on high index hole and score low on low index hole. Is that right?
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:53 pm

Just don't score double bogey and above, try more birdies.. Usually the Person with most birdies will win. Also try to score on index holes.
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:49 pm

sandkie wrote:
So the best way to score most stablepoint is to score high on high index hole and score low on low index hole. Is that right?

Theoretically correct and if you can do that in reality, means you already a very good player, whatever format, you should also win. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:49 pm

Neutralgolfer wrote:
Just don't score double bogey and above, try more birdies.. Usually the Person with most birdies will win. Also try to score on index holes.

And that was how you won History cup.. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:04 am

Thanks for explaining bro markie Smile

Trying to digest haha
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:43 am

Let me try and put it in another way,

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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:55 pm

Ng is right.
In order to do well for sys 36 stableford, u need to shoot birdie. Once u shoot triple and above, you will lose points. Double is ok as long as not too many. Max is 6.

Si bottom line, chiong for birdie, avoid triple.
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:58 pm

some organizer will also pick certain holes, maybe 6 or 12 holes for calculation.....

tht means tht you wont know which holes they will use for calculation...

all these to avoid ppl buaya... lol
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:58 pm

Thank you kp. No wonder u are qualified rules official. Well done bro.
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:01 pm

Jake, that is another format the Peoria or double Peoria format in which blind holes are used to determine handicap for the day. This format is really luck liao
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:19 am

Daffu wrote:
So... how do you explain for folks that score 40-50+ points in a tournament under sys36?

I think under normal stableford is possible, not under system 36.
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:48 am

If it is possible under normal stableford, then that guy is a terrible buaya. Prob a single but declare hcp 24
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:25 am

markie wrote:
If it is possible under normal stableford, then that guy is a terrible buaya. Prob a single but declare hcp 24

Yes, score of a buaya.... What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:19 pm

Neutralgolfer wrote:
markie wrote:
If it is possible under normal stableford, then that guy is a terrible buaya. Prob a single but declare hcp 24

Yes, score of a buaya.... What a Face

It could be a Pro/scratch declaring at 24. And still walk away with prizes. Beh paiseh.
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:41 am

Golfernam, this is for you. At least now you know how to win. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:56 am

swing2sky wrote:
Golfernam, this is for you. At least now you know how to win. Very Happy
Now I can see hope,try to go for more bird or par Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:01 am

Golfernam wrote:
swing2sky wrote:
Golfernam, this is for you. At least now you know how to win. Very Happy
Now I can see hope,try to go for more bird or par Very Happy

There are a lot of gd players in RDG. Gd luck and enjoy ur game and lunch. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:05 am

Batman wrote:
Steady la bro Markie for the explanation... I caught the ball for System 36, but lost then remaining. Haha..

Golf is already such a tough game. Hence for me, I will just enjoy the good company and my beer cheers

Yeepy. Let's enjoy our beer. Cheers! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: System 36 Stableford   Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:05 am

prettygolf wrote:
Golfernam wrote:
swing2sky wrote:
Golfernam, this is for you. At least now you know how to win. Very Happy
Now I can see hope,try to go for more bird or par Very Happy

There are a lot of gd players in RDG. Gd luck and enjoy ur game and lunch. cheers
Ya...gd luck is what everyone wanted on that day,golf game can't make it...still have lucky draw cheers
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